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Teachers, stop showing YouTube videos and other corporate internet content on classrooms if you don't have effective adblockers in use.

Students shouldn't be force-fed ads during class.

@Stoori

Oh yeah, they're totally going to let me put adblockers on their cursed windows machines. Do they even make ad blockers for internet explorer?

I agree in principle, but in practice, I have almost no control over my workplace's IT policies.

@celesteh Argh, that sucks!

If I was a teacher in such a situation, I'd plan my materials in such way that I wouldn't have to rely on sites that may show ads unexpectedly during class.

@Stoori

There's a really incredible device called a rubens tube that is great for showing what a standing wave is. It's an exciting and interesting way to demonstrate this important principle of acoustics.

It works by being lit on fire, so, even if there weren't a risk of explosion, there's just no way I'd be allowed to bring it into a classroom. Even if I didn't work in a historic, wood-framed building.

When I can use my own laptop, I can pre-download the video. (Probably also in
violation of university policy. We're government run and aren't supposed to fuck around with IP. Even more so because my program is in the creative industries.) But if I'm stuck on a "teaching computer", I'm stuck.

Even people who are ideologically aligned with advertisers don't want to spend class time on it.

I don't like using youtube and spotify, but it's extremely accessible, so students who missed class or want to review or see more can find and access the resource.

It's shit, but the problem is capitalism.

@celesteh @Stoori Would it be possible to use alternative front ends like invidious or piped?

@xarvos @Stoori

If those are websites and they're not blocked, yeah... Thanks for the headsup.

@Stoori @celesteh

a reliable, well moderated PeerTube instance would be particularly good for educational content, also they permit the video to be downloaded for local playback..

I've noticed better educational videos on Peertube, albeit currently highly skewed towards computer/tech subjects...

@vfrmedia @Stoori

That's a brilliant idea, but somebody would have to create content for it.

@celesteh @Stoori

There's already good stuff appearing (such as this series of tutorials for #Krita presented by an Indian chap), although the subjects are skewed a lot towards tech and politics..

tube.tchncs.de/w/fykyQyCEQ9gGp

@celesteh @Stoori

*Every* Windows machine I deploy at work automatically has an adblocker on it, I describe it as a security enhancement (I am the IT Manager though so basically set the technical side of the policies)

Not sure if there is much left that can only work with IE, most sites work reasonably well with any of Chrome/Edge/Firefox all of which will accept UBlock origin...

@Stoori Also youtube-dl exists!! You can pre-download ad-free videos for showing!

@meena @ljwrites @Stoori When I had to do this I downloaded the vid and embedded it in the slide show. It does make the slide show 16M (and it's not exactly straightforward to downsize a vid, but maybe some easy GUI tool exists that I don't know), but the result is, both vids and slides always have each other as context, regardless of connectivity.

@cadadr @ljwrites @Stoori with how skilled i am at using computers for anything other than programming / administrating / debugging computers, i find handbrake.fr/ about as intuitive to use as ffmpeg

@cadadr @meena @ljwrites @Stoori I once had to give a conference talk where I wanted to show a bunch of short clips from a videogame to highlight specific things in the game. I thought I was clever and made short videos and embedded them in the presentation. The presentation was big, but worked. Except when I was trying to present it on the conference computer, when it promptly crashed the computer, forcing me to talk without any presentation at all.

@meena This is probably an accurate representation of the expression I had back then.

@jaranta @cadadr @ljwrites @Stoori having to present on someone else's computer is absolutely the second worst you can do to me and my presentation.

@jaranta lighting a spotlight in my face in a giant, sparsely populated room, so i can't see anyone in my audience

@ljwrites this is what I do (even though I have effect adblockers in place for the browser too).

@Stoori

@Stoori Fun fact: showing YouTube videos in class is illegal in Finland.

@jonne !!!

...but is it legal in universities? Or why then we're always shown youtube videos in lectures?

@Stoori Correction: it's illegal in most cases. Including in universities. This is due to the mismatch between US and Finnish copyright systems.

@jonne okay, time to point this out for our lecturers.

do you happen to have the exact lainkohta at hand?

@Stoori it's basically the copyrighted law. It goes like this: YouTube default licence relies on fair use for most uses, but Finland doesn't have fair use in copyright law. Nobody thinks to specify that you can use their videos for teaching, because that's covered by fair use – right? So unless they use a licence that allows use in classroom, you can't use their videos.

@Stoori The law is kinda stupid, but if it helps people stop showing YouTube videos during lectures, I'm all for it.

@Stoori Finnish copyright law is pretty moderate otherwise, so the worst that could happen for breaking it is that they could sue you for damages, which would probably be lost revenue of a few cents. So there are probably no consequences for breaking the law. Still illegal!

@jonne also, I don't really mind seeing the videos in class, but I do mind having to see the ads — which, based on the same copyright law, is also illegal, but I guess no advertiser is sad that their ads are shown to students illegally.

@Stoori for people so carried away with making sure the students are Paying Attention, this is a bit ironic

@Stoori worse is when kids get chromebooks and the device control prevents them from installing ublock origin.

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