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What do you use for routing inputs/outputs

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@balrogboogie i'm not at the moment, but i'd use Jack both because it's what i know and because it handles multichannel audio. not sure if Pulseaudio does as well, haven't used it

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@balrogboogie mostly jack, some pulse, a little alsa

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@balrogboogie ALSA (is that "neither"?) It does handle multichannel when I have a multichannel interface.

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@woozle ah, I didn't know that. I've used ALSA for interacting with the devices but I didn't realize it could do routing

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@balrogboogie @woozle alsa is the backend for jack iirc

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@Aleums @balrogboogie

Pretty sure I didn't have JACK installed, but I could be wrong about that.

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@woozle @balrogboogie makes sense!

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@Aleums @balrogboogie

I checked on another system (my laptop) -- Audacity shows ALSA as the input, and the only part of JACK which is installed is libjack-jackd2-0. None of the actual JACK system is present, as far as I can tell.

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@Aleums @balrogboogie @woozle alsa is a backend for Jack and the most common one for Jack on linux.

it's also the most common backend for Pulseaudio that i'm aware of

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@gdkar @Aleums @balrogboogie

I do seem to have Pulseaudio installed.

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@gdkar @Aleums @balrogboogie

...which tells me how to respond to the poll, finally -- yay!!

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@woozle @Aleums @balrogboogie heh, mooost people do ( or, at least, it ships with most desktop distros i know of )

ime a lot of software can access devices via pulse ( for device sharing ) or via alsa directly ( no other application is using the audio interface. ) anything interfacing through linportaudio on linux usually has this property

i don't remember whether audacity also has that property currently, but I'm guessing it does?

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@gdkar @Aleums @balrogboogie

...I'm not sure how I would determine that. >.>

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@woozle @Aleums @balrogboogie at least on my laptop

running audacity ( pulse active ) lists recording devices prefixed by

"pulse: " and "default: " which are pulse ports

running with `pasuspender -- audacity` ( which forces pulse to not run until it exits ) lists recording devices like

"HDA Intel PCH: ALC3246 Analog (hw:0,0)" and plain "default" which are alsa mediated hardware devices

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@woozle @Aleums @balrogboogie err, you get "default: " prefixed in either case. it's the pulse: vs. hardware name that's telling

@gdkar how does ASIO compare to alsa? I know ASIO is a windows thing, but if a program is using ASIO it will monopolize it similarly to something that's using alsa directly on Linux, right?

@Aleums i don't really know the windows stack at all. i thiiiiiink there's a routing layer above or within? but i don't really know

@Aleums @gdkar ASIO is comparable to Jackd. Alsa is the "normal" sound architecture, and it sits under pulseaudio, which is a further abstraction layer. Jackd is a more direct interface with the kernel that bypasses pulse and alsa. You can typically get much lower latency with jackd (~5ms) than with alsa (~40ms). I don't know who these sickos are who are using pulseaudio; latency must be through the roof...

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@gdkar @woozle @balrogboogie this reflects what I've seen too

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@balrogboogie It may be that the routing was being done by an app; if I can ever find a working PCI system to set it up on again, I'll post about that.

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@balrogboogie I use jack for routing midi but pulse has worked just fine so far with my usb interface

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@balrogboogie but I only record single-channel! jack is probably better for multiple channel recording

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@Aleums i'll only be recording single channel so this is good to know, thanks!

@balrogboogie if I'm gonna record something shitty using only my laptop mic I'll just use pulseaudio in Audacity but otherwise it has to be JACK. which kind of sucks because I don't have the first idea what I'm doing with JACK

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@balrogboogie real recording artists let a butterflies wings flap once...
Wait you know what that's not helpful,

I've heard good things about JACK but I haven't seen an easy way of setting it up which doesn't require configuring and and activating it every time you boot your machine. (I use arch BTW)

As someone dependent on their workstation having functional audio for daily buisness that isnt audio production related I haven't had the balls to make that leap and install it yet. I've heard horror stories of spending days debugging it.

Most pro audio apps work with PA but its like shooting them in the kneecaps before you use them, and frankly recording into audacity DOES NOT WORK with PA enabled (there's a program you can use called pasuspender)

Latency is wild, I've not tried live recording but I imagine it would be unpleasant. For live applications I use a hardware recorder

CC @spacekookie anything I missed?

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@SEGFAULT @spacekookie thanks, i'm gonna be experimenting this weekend so hopefully I can get something working

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@SEGFAULT @balrogboogie Yea no this about sums it up x)

I've been using Ardour with the alsa backend which funnily enough breaks audacity for me afterwards, I'm not really sure why.

I've tried setting up jack a few times but getting really weird errors every time.

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@spacekookie thanks for the input kookie

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